Christian? You are probably in trouble….

November 19, 2008 at 3:29 pm 4 comments

Wed Nov 12, 2008 at 08:40:40 PM PST

Ok.

I am Jewish and gay.

And I am sick and tired of seeing homophobic asses using my bible to base their attacks on my life.

Many of them do not understand what they call the “Old Testament” yet they continue to use it to justify their hate.

When people come on DK and attempt to do so I often engage in various discussions of both Torah and Talmud law and they move on… but I thought what if I look just at the Christian bible?

This is NOT an attack on Christians.

This is, however an attack on Christians that use my Bible to base their hate of me to produce events such as

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I admit I am not a Christian.

What the heck, though… they are not Jewish yet they use my Bible. So I say “No harm, no foul”

So…

Let’s talk about Jesus and some of his views.

Slavery:

I looked and could not find a single thing uttered against slavery by Jesus in the entire book. Slavery was around at the time, so I’d think it would be odd if Jesus was unaware of slavery as he lived in a world and a time where and when slavery was common.

So.. what did I find on slavery?

“Those who are slaves must consider their masters worthy of all respect, so that no one will speak evil of the name of God and of our teaching. Slaves belonging to Christian masters must not despise them, for they are their brothers.” (1 Timothy 6:1-2).

Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to win their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord. Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for men, since you know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as a reward. It is the Lord Christ you are serving. Anyone who does wrong will be repaid for his wrong, and there is no favoritism. (Colossians 3:22-4:1)

So slavery is OK…just don’t ummm..treat the slaves too bad?

And I like the part starting with “work at it with all….” so.. what it is saying is Mr or Ms. Slave, work as hard as you can as a slave, like a duty of some kind?

Ok….some other good ones.

Don’t call someone a fool. If you do, wear a fire-proof suit….

“But I say unto you, That whosoever shall be angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire” (Matthew 5:22).

But it is just us the gays going to hell, right? I mean…for having the sex, right? Nope. ‘fraid not. Huh?

“Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire” (Jude 1:7)

So all you not married heteros having sex…shame shame shame. Hell-fire awaits.

Have YOU ever been drunk or jealous? Uh oh. Doomed as Doomed can be.

Ruh roh.

“Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God” (Galatians 5:21).

Well, at least, thank G_D, Christians are not like ‘those other religions’ that tell people everyone else is going to Hell…er…wait…

“He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God” (John 3:18). “He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall be damned” (Mark 16:16).

And last and not least.

If you are a woman and decide that you will not have children….or if you are a woman and for whatever reason you cannot have children, tough luck.

“And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety” (1 Timothy 2:15).

So….I guess I feel so much better. I mean, since some Christians use my book to tell me I am going to a place called Hell, I can use their book and tell most of them that THEY are going to hell.

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A question of love The Emanuel Brothers

4 Comments Add your own

  • 1. Carah  |  November 23, 2008 at 7:19 pm

    This article reminds me of Jeff… one of his “topics”… He would have enjoyed reading it.

    Reply
  • 2. rebaaron  |  November 23, 2008 at 10:54 pm

    I like that – thanks Carah!

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  • 3. dave  |  November 25, 2008 at 1:08 am

    Hi Aaron, Love your blog – and I thank you again for getting me interested in blogs in the first place.

    As one of those Bible believing Christian pastors, I do find it perplexing and in no small way embarrassing that people would identify with a faith that says “God is love” (twice in the same chapter 1 John 4:8 & 16) and then somehow come up with the “God Hates Fags” thing.

    I’m surprised that BFSkinner failed to include these words of Jesus: “You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ but I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.” Sound like a lot of (Can we say “all”?) heterosexual men are in big trouble too.

    Jesus’s teaching is actually designed to back us all into a corner: the realization that we need God’s forgiveness. He then offers that to us through his death and resurrection.

    And without question Jesus always had the most trouble with self-righteous religiousity. That puts BFSkinner, perhaps unintentionally, closer to Jesus than the “Christians” who so boldly proclaim that God hates him.

    Since I just did a teaching for my own church on sexual sin, with your permission I offer this link as an example of a Christian pastor dealing with the subject in his own congregation. Homosexuality is not the only topic touched upon, but it does get a brief mention. It may not be the most articulate rendering of the subject (I always wince when I listen to myself), but I hope it comes off as biblical, balanced and loving. The pdf notes and mp3 audio are both accessible there.

    http://dckoso.wordpress.com/2008/11/23/palmer-st-podcast-acts-15-part-3/

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  • 4. rebaaron  |  December 2, 2008 at 5:55 pm

    Thanks Dave, and you can use whatever you like for your class. I understand, appreciate, and might even dare say honor other people’s beliefs. But the older I get, the less tolerant I am of intolerance. How’s that for a paradox!?

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